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well, the federal law allows death penalty. i wrote the law in 1994 when i was head of the crime subcommittee in the house. this is just the kind of case that it should be applied to. in fact, the only other time it's been used since '94 is on timothy mcveigh. and given what i've seen it would be appropriate to use the death penalty in this case and i would hope they would apply it in federal court. >> let me move you both onto immigration. with the one big picture question to you both and that is do you see anything -- we have one suspect now deceased older brother who was a permanent resident. we have another who is a naturalized citizen as of last year. do you see anything in the legal immigration system that you now want to go back and say we need to fix this or that and include it in our bill, senator graham you first? >> well, i want to know how the fbi or the system dropped the ball when he was identified as a potential terrorist. but in terms of immigration, i think now is the time to bring all the 11 million out of the
well, the federal law allows death penalty. i wrote the law in 1994 when i was head of the crime subcommittee in the house. this is just the kind of case that it should be applied to. in fact, the only other time it's been used since '94 is on timothy mcveigh. and given what i've seen it would be appropriate to use the death penalty in this case and i would hope they would apply it in federal court. >> let me move you both onto immigration. with the one big picture question to you both...
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let me explain one thing, the law is really clear because lindsay graham wrote the law. what he said is correct. you can declare him an enemy combatant and he will still be tried in a criminal proceeding in a civilian court system because that's what the law is. that has nothing to do with enemy combatant status. nothing. that's what they are trying do here. >> and that is not what that statute says. >> lindsey graham wrote the law and has been -- you are incorrect. you can be an anen combatant -- >> what he wrote was only aliens can be tried -- >> no, that's not correct. >> guys we have to run. >> you are incorrect. >> coming up tonight, we have a special hannity tribute to the great city of boston and the victims of last more than's horrific atank but first should torture be used to extract information from the bombing suspect? some are here to defend that statement. that and more coming up straight ahead. @ ♪ roundup ♪ now roundup has a new sharp-shootin' wand ♪ ♪ just point and shoot, and weeds are gone ♪ ♪ 'round fences, trees, even mulched beds ♪
let me explain one thing, the law is really clear because lindsay graham wrote the law. what he said is correct. you can declare him an enemy combatant and he will still be tried in a criminal proceeding in a civilian court system because that's what the law is. that has nothing to do with enemy combatant status. nothing. that's what they are trying do here. >> and that is not what that statute says. >> lindsey graham wrote the law and has been -- you are incorrect. you can be an...
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law the united states citizens can not be tried in military commissions. and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> tsarnaev now lies under armed guard unable to speak due to what may be a self-inflicted gunshot wound in his neck. authorities continue to question him, relying on written answers at this point. but his answers may be somewhat less important in his prosecution given the volume of evidence in the federal complaint, including description of video after the first explosion. "bomber two virtually alone among the individuals in front of the restaurant appears calm. he glances to the east and then calmly, but rapidly, begins moving to the west. away from the direction of the finish line. he walks away without his knapsack. having left it on the ground where he'd been standing. approximately ten seconds later, an explosion occurs." the complaint also contains details from the carjacking victim who says one of the suspects said to him, "did you hear abou
law the united states citizens can not be tried in military commissions. and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> tsarnaev now lies under armed guard unable to speak due to what may be a self-inflicted gunshot wound in his neck. authorities continue to question him, relying on written answers at this point. but his answers may be somewhat less important in his prosecution given the volume...
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law. the united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is live with us right now. i know you've been reviewing these charges. what's the latest on what you've uncovered? >> it is a fairly interesting sequence of things that the government cites here as evidence. first of all they say that there was a surveillance tape that shows what apparently is the second suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, the man in the hospital, placing the bomb at the second bombing. this is unrelated picture to what i'm talking about now. but this is the person we're talking about. but the surveillance tape was taken at the scene of the second bombing. you may recall that there was a restaurant there called the foreign restaurant. they say a surveillance camera there shows him walking up to the restaurant with his backpack
law. the united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is live with us right now. i know you've been reviewing these charges. what's the latest on what you've uncovered? >> it is a fairly interesting sequence of things that the government cites here as evidence. first of all they say...
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citizen due to birth right law. she applied for aid to pay for her hospital bill and, you know, and when she did that, d.c. best contacted her and she now gets over $40,000 in federal assistance programs due to the link program, section 8 housing because of the child. nd she also gets daycare assistance and she's working under the table for $6 an hour for a major landscape company in peoria. and when i hear that everybody says well, illegal immigrants will not get any benefits, i hope everybody listening, especially minimum wage workers, i hope they're appalled at what i just told u. ho o let's get a response om rebea. guest: there are certain parts that the u.s. benefits system that people can access that the supreme cot ruled that people with public access cannot be denied of public school. you share a concern that is i'm sure shared by many people across the cub, but there is a lot -- country, but there are a lot of attention to how much people who are dream a system and house members who are working on immigrati
citizen due to birth right law. she applied for aid to pay for her hospital bill and, you know, and when she did that, d.c. best contacted her and she now gets over $40,000 in federal assistance programs due to the link program, section 8 housing because of the child. nd she also gets daycare assistance and she's working under the table for $6 an hour for a major landscape company in peoria. and when i hear that everybody says well, illegal immigrants will not get any benefits, i hope everybody...
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guest: this gets into law enforcement areas. they needed the videos from the stores and the individuals who were there at the marathon. why they put the fun goes out outhy they put the photos -. there probably did have their home addresses but i do not think the young man headed straight home after the bombing. diskettes into the details of the investigation. isomes in on talking about the issue of the older brother, tamerlan. should we withdraw the visa? guest: the with the current system operates is your visa can be revoked for lots of reasons. host: clement that he is seeking asylum and goes back home for a longer period of time. guest: if there was any reason he was a danger, he could have .een barred from reentry card are lots of green holders better deported, because dnk to criminal or terrorist organizations. he could have been kept out of the country. we do not know what information the fbi had. twitter wantlks on to know more about the accounts on foreign relations. takes noe council specific position. i was the project
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. >> under the law of war there's no right to legal counsel when you're being questioned for national security purposes. so i hope the obama administration will allow that exception and they have a very bad track record here. >> the white house telling reporters it would try tsarnaev in federal court and no other options were considered. >> this is matter decide ode by the attend of yates and the attorney general. the whole national security team supports this decision. >> to bring it down for you, the confusion comes over the venue. there is no way under the military commissions act to try an american citizen at the military courts in guantanamo bay, but if a sed threshold of evidence was met, if there was evidence that the brothers were directed by a foreign terrorist organization that would call for enemy combatant status. >> we have been talking about the trip to russian that the older suspect took. it's my understanding you learn more about the trip. >> fox news was told that russia's equivalent othe fbi isn't a letter to the bureau claiming the older brother was a believer in ra
. >> under the law of war there's no right to legal counsel when you're being questioned for national security purposes. so i hope the obama administration will allow that exception and they have a very bad track record here. >> the white house telling reporters it would try tsarnaev in federal court and no other options were considered. >> this is matter decide ode by the attend of yates and the attorney general. the whole national security team supports this decision....
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the citizenry, both in apprehending the folks, the videos that came in and everybody abided by the law. i think the mayor and the governor and the police chief did a fantastic job there. >> neil: do you think, steve, that -- we know obviously the target was mayhem and violence and death and all that, but that the business community was in any way a target, to disrupt them, to even disrupt your economy, an argument you often hear about 9-11, that it was much to have an impact on our economy as it was on our fears? >> i can't speculate about that. i think all i've been focused and our partners and the business community is try to get the aid to the victims. these victims' lives will be affected just from showing up at a marathon, it seems tragic. siphons will rally and help all these folks, both the business community, sports community, everybody is rallying around. >> neil: it must be a bipartisan rally because bain capital is the mitt romney-inspired firm. is there a sense that you get that invariably, the political snipeing has ensued about what the government knew and when about the
the citizenry, both in apprehending the folks, the videos that came in and everybody abided by the law. i think the mayor and the governor and the police chief did a fantastic job there. >> neil: do you think, steve, that -- we know obviously the target was mayhem and violence and death and all that, but that the business community was in any way a target, to disrupt them, to even disrupt your economy, an argument you often hear about 9-11, that it was much to have an impact on our...
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citizenship as far as the law is concerned? >> no, i don't think it would make any difference at all, because when this occurred and when the action occurred, when the crime occurred, and when the refusal, if you will, to read him his miranda rights occurred he was a citizen. so i don't think that would matter at all. >> all right, fred. >> christopher, this is fredricka in atlanta. i'm wondering, given you defended timothy mcveigh, oklahoma city bombing case, are you seeing any parallels between this case and that which you defended? >> well, there's certainly some parallels because you have the explosions and this wasn't -- fortunately, wasn't as devastating as the oklahoma city bombing was. but the trial is going to be as difficult, i believe, as the oklahoma city bombing. when you have to get in and get experts and bombing experts and people to help you learn how to blow up a bomb, build a bomb and clean up a bomb, that takes an extensive amount of time and a lot of expertise. whoever ends up defending this man is going to
citizenship as far as the law is concerned? >> no, i don't think it would make any difference at all, because when this occurred and when the action occurred, when the crime occurred, and when the refusal, if you will, to read him his miranda rights occurred he was a citizen. so i don't think that would matter at all. >> all right, fred. >> christopher, this is fredricka in atlanta. i'm wondering, given you defended timothy mcveigh, oklahoma city bombing case, are you seeing...
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a we ensure that people who wish to do us harm are not eligible for benefits under the immigration laws including this new bill before us? host: we should point out that was before it dzhokhar tsarnaev was captured. he is under heavy guard protection, but one of the issues is whether or not he will be given his miranda rights. is he a u.s. citizen and under the constitution considered innocent until proven guilty, or is he an enemy combat? guest: you have people from the aclu and other supporters of civil liberties saying you have cases where -- you have the same two senators, john mccain and lindsey graham, who said this person is a terrorist and should not have miranda rights. it seems the obama administration is going to be straddling the middle ground, as they did with the so-called underwear bomber from a few years ago. host: "national journal" reporting the headline, "pete williams' reporting philosophy d y was g boon sighttory r guest: i would have to say that pete williams is the best i have ever come across, so measured and sofer. is amazing he was able to be showcased the way
a we ensure that people who wish to do us harm are not eligible for benefits under the immigration laws including this new bill before us? host: we should point out that was before it dzhokhar tsarnaev was captured. he is under heavy guard protection, but one of the issues is whether or not he will be given his miranda rights. is he a u.s. citizen and under the constitution considered innocent until proven guilty, or is he an enemy combat? guest: you have people from the aclu and other...
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and other law enforcement sourcing. i don't know that we can definitively say right now that he wasn't on a list or was not being monitored. this is still a very fluid situation that's developing. we're doing the best job we can reporting. i know other outlets are. i think it's really important to in some ways let this play out, and especially now that the younger brother is in custody. there is not an active threat anymore. we don't have all the answers yet. here at the globe and other news outlets, we're going to try to get the answers. >> all right. thank you so much for joining us. >> of course. thanks for having me. >> thank you. up next on "the five," the latest on the victims, four are dead, over 170 injured and one police officer is fighting for his life. an update on them when we come back @@ >>> so we want to update you now on the only people that matter, the survivors of the boston terrorist attack, as well as the latest on the funeral plans for the four victims. eight-year-old martin richard, 29-year-old c
and other law enforcement sourcing. i don't know that we can definitively say right now that he wasn't on a list or was not being monitored. this is still a very fluid situation that's developing. we're doing the best job we can reporting. i know other outlets are. i think it's really important to in some ways let this play out, and especially now that the younger brother is in custody. there is not an active threat anymore. we don't have all the answers yet. here at the globe and other news...
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new jersey's existing gun laws are already among the strictest in the nation. by the way, christie's move is a reminder he's still running for re-election, not for 2016 yet. >>> as we wait for formal charges to be brought against the 19-year-old marathon bombing suspect federal and state authorities are trying to determine what led up to last monday's attack and what red flags might have been missed. for more on that joined by nbc's national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. it seems to me the unanswered question everybody would like to know of, number one, where did these guys test? nobody believes this was the first time they did these bombs on monday. that they must have tested them somewhere. the second, what was tamerlan, the older brother, doing in russia for six months? >> reporter: exactly. there's so many unanswered questions here. but let's start with the -- that russian report to the fbi in 2011 asking them to investigate tamerlan. what sparked that -- the russian request? what information do they have? the fbi says that the russians didn'
new jersey's existing gun laws are already among the strictest in the nation. by the way, christie's move is a reminder he's still running for re-election, not for 2016 yet. >>> as we wait for formal charges to be brought against the 19-year-old marathon bombing suspect federal and state authorities are trying to determine what led up to last monday's attack and what red flags might have been missed. for more on that joined by nbc's national investigative correspondent michael isikoff....
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the senate was not able to pass a law tightening background checks last week. on friday nate bell tweeted this . . . >> michael: representative bell, i wonder how many of them wish tougher gun laws would have stopped the brothers from getting guns in the first place. you, sir, are a moron. coming up will the boston bombings impact the immigration talks here? you better believe it. and remember the whole airport armageddon that we never saw? well, we're seeing it now. and it was 10% political exercise, 80% three-ring circuit, and 10% awesome. monday night in "the war room," and we will be right back. ♪ >> if you believe in state's rights but still support the drug war you must be high. >> "viewpoint" digs deep into the issues of the day. >> do you think that there is any chance we'll see this president even say the words "carbon tax"? >> with an open mind... >> has the time finally come for real immigration reform? >> ...and a distinctly satirical point of view. >> but you mentioned "great leadership" so i want to talk about donald rumsfeld. >> (laughter). >>
the senate was not able to pass a law tightening background checks last week. on friday nate bell tweeted this . . . >> michael: representative bell, i wonder how many of them wish tougher gun laws would have stopped the brothers from getting guns in the first place. you, sir, are a moron. coming up will the boston bombings impact the immigration talks here? you better believe it. and remember the whole airport armageddon that we never saw? well, we're seeing it now. and it was 10%...
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, federal or state law enforcement. that being said, they are human. mistakes sometimes are made. of course, it raises questions when you hear that the government of russia alerted us about this man and he was under questioning, was investigated and nothing happened. if there are questions that can lead to improving the protocol, to improving the process, to maybe catching a bad guy before he does heinous terrorist acts, i say, let's go through the process. we're all going to learn from it. >> we've been talking about the weapons that these guys had. you know the gun control debate is coming into this. l.z., the centers failed to advance gun control that would have ics panded background checks and closed the gun show loophole. on friday, some gun rights activists said that the boston lockdown with residents warned to stay inside and not to answer their doors to anyone but police, they said it was a perfect justification for owning a gun. are we done with new gun control efforts and does this story, what's happening here
, federal or state law enforcement. that being said, they are human. mistakes sometimes are made. of course, it raises questions when you hear that the government of russia alerted us about this man and he was under questioning, was investigated and nothing happened. if there are questions that can lead to improving the protocol, to improving the process, to maybe catching a bad guy before he does heinous terrorist acts, i say, let's go through the process. we're all going to learn from it....
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that once the bill go into effect, the legalization, whether it's de facto or full strength of the law, will happen almost immediately and then from there, the citizenship will be probably a decade or more down the road. >> and the president's role in all this? what do you hear from the congressman? >> the congressman has been probably the best -- the biggest democratic critic of the president on immigration, particularly in the congress. people a few immigration who said obama helped them. but he got himself arrested protesting the deportation policy in 2010. from what i understand it's been difficult for the president to figure out what his role is because he really is supposed to be doing the cheerleader role for the house and senate rather than actually being presidential in the sense of -- >> or negotiating. >> or negotiating. >> keep in mind when this was last being, the same concept was last being discussed in the bush administration, there were members of both the department of homeland security and the commerce department up on the hill every day when they were doing this i'm
that once the bill go into effect, the legalization, whether it's de facto or full strength of the law, will happen almost immediately and then from there, the citizenship will be probably a decade or more down the road. >> and the president's role in all this? what do you hear from the congressman? >> the congressman has been probably the best -- the biggest democratic critic of the president on immigration, particularly in the congress. people a few immigration who said obama...
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there was such a huge presence of law enforcement. we're talking thousands of people who were on the ground and they were sectioning off the entire area going block by block, checking the homes as they went, and there was one area that was of particular interest, and when it got quiet later -- earlier in the afternoon, we were told in fact they may be letting him rest to either give him some time to flush himself out, or pinpoint his exact location which clearly, they were able to do. so there is going to be a 9:30 presser. we are hearing that there is going to be obviously some information and sort of applause that will be coming out of that press conference, the fact that he's there and he's in custody but again, we do want to tell people that he was injured. there were some shots that were fired. plus he may have been injured even before he got to that location. so there's still a few wild cards in all of this. they do believe clearly that this is without question the person, you can hear all the cheering that's going on. we do als
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well in the days since the boston marathon bombing that rocks that city americans and law enforcement agencies across the country have been on high alert earlier today there was another momentary scare when one of the most trusted news organizations in the world the associated press posted this breaking news updates through their official twitter account. the tweet claims that there were two blasts outside of the white house and that president obama had been injured but that tweet was fake the a.p. twitter account had in fact been hacked now we're going to list the damage was already done and within seconds that update had been retreated for a thousand times and apparently wall street was watching stocks took a nosedive within minutes of the tweet being posted the dow jones dropped over one hundred thirty three points but just as quickly as it fell the stock market recovered when it was learned that the tweet was a farce so obviously the boston bombing is still having ripple effects on the fears of the american public meanwhile four days since the boston marathon bombings suspect joan
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of law is upheld. special2007, the interests were brought in, being engaged behind closed doors, to help write a bill while law enforcement officers, the ones given the duty to make sure the laws complied with, have been shut out come as has been the public. this bill is amnesty before enforcement. begin now the is the promise for enforcement perry sa. today if it passes, illegal immigrants will have the percti of amnesty, and all the appellate panel pass it is submit alat ll never geimplemented. the bill's provision to include those who pose a public sector threat, as offirs w the bill. we have not gotten the full story on this issue. you will hear alarming facts, straight from the source, no immigration bill should ever pass congress that the law enforcement officers on the ground tell us will not work or cannot be enforced. senator, it is good to have you. if you would like to share a couple of remarks, and we will go straight to these gentlemen. >> thank you, and i am very honored to join jeff and
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it's possible that a person could be charged for violations of state laws and federal laws and also laws of war which are ajudicated in military commissions. military commissions can ajudicate violations of state or federal laws. they ajudicate violations of the law of war. martha: that would not apply here. there was some discussion about law of war when all of this begun began and the question of whether or not the administration perceives us to be involved in a war on terror and whether or not those rules apply. sort some of that out for us. what is your thinking about that? >> well the president makes a determination as to whether or not a person is a enemy combatant and then if the nation is in a situation that qualifies for law of war application, then a person could be apprehended as an enemy combatant and tried for violations of the law of war and adjudicated or tried in that setting in a military commission. we had early on in the war on terror, what was called the authorization to use military force, aumf, it is abbreviated as, and that has been held by our supreme court to hav
it's possible that a person could be charged for violations of state laws and federal laws and also laws of war which are ajudicated in military commissions. military commissions can ajudicate violations of state or federal laws. they ajudicate violations of the law of war. martha: that would not apply here. there was some discussion about law of war when all of this begun began and the question of whether or not the administration perceives us to be involved in a war on terror and whether or...
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and other law enforcement sourcing. i don't know that we can definitively say right now that he wasn't on a list or was not being monitored. this is still a very fluid situation that's developing. we're doing the best job we can reporting. i know other outlets are. i think it's really important to in some ways let this play out, and especially now that the younger brother is in custody. there is not an active threat anymore. we don't have all the answers yet. here at the globe and other news outlets, we're going to try to get the answers. >> all right. thank you so much for joining us. >> of course. thanks for having me. >> thank you. up next on "the five," the latest on the victims, four are dead, over 170 injured and one police officer is fighting for his life. an update on them when we come back okay, team! after age 40, we can start losing muscle -- 8% every 10 years. wow. wow. but you can help fight muscle loss with exercise and ensure muscle health. i've got revigor. what's revigor? it's the amino acid metabolite,
and other law enforcement sourcing. i don't know that we can definitively say right now that he wasn't on a list or was not being monitored. this is still a very fluid situation that's developing. we're doing the best job we can reporting. i know other outlets are. i think it's really important to in some ways let this play out, and especially now that the younger brother is in custody. there is not an active threat anymore. we don't have all the answers yet. here at the globe and other news...
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resulted in more information available to law lawful tools ing without needing to violate rights. senator mentioned graham. he pushed against the decision the combatant status. [video clip] >> i hope the congress will at this case and look at our laws and come to the to.lusion that i have come we are at war. for a going to be at war very long time and we have to have the tools to defend values.es within our one of those tools is the ability to question people about future attacks to gather intelligence for national purposes without benefit of counsel. the information will never be of law against the suspect. it will be used to protect us. the last thing in the world we should do in the times in which our ability limit to gather intelligence to the criminal justice system. essence you will have turned over the intelligence gathering process to the accused their lawyer. host: senator lindsey graham to usethe case yesterday the enemy combatant use for the bombing suspect. we go to anna, a republican from texas. caller: it is diana. hat i have never heard on the media and what i don't
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what does the law say? >> every terrorist suspect arrested in the united states, since the first world trade center bombing in 1993 has been treated in the criminal justice system, not as an enemy combatant. standard operating procedure. frankly, the whole status of enemy combatant remains ambiguous in the legal system. the prisoners in guantanamo bay remain in legal limbo. by treating them as criminal suspects, the obama administration is avoiding all kinds of risks and simply acting as the bush administration has in the past and as they have acted in other terrorist cases by using the normal criminal procedures. >> because lindsey graham and others say, yes, he should be tried as a u.s. citizen, should be tried in a u.s. civilian court, but that can await this process of doing some serious interrogation of him and designating him as an enemy combatant in the meantime. all of this is moot right now, because as you know, yesterday, he was formally given his miranda rights and a judge magistrate at his bed s
what does the law say? >> every terrorist suspect arrested in the united states, since the first world trade center bombing in 1993 has been treated in the criminal justice system, not as an enemy combatant. standard operating procedure. frankly, the whole status of enemy combatant remains ambiguous in the legal system. the prisoners in guantanamo bay remain in legal limbo. by treating them as criminal suspects, the obama administration is avoiding all kinds of risks and simply acting as...
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whether it would be a proper under the law, is an open question. they couldn't use any of the material that they illicited from him, but maybe they don't need it. they may also reindict him. >> well, they wouldn't use the inform in the criminal case against him but could use it to get to a wider group. >> oh no question. can you use it against anybody else. you only can't use it against this defendant. and they may be able to obtain such information. and if so, they might reindict him under the terrorist statute. it is a little odd that everybody regards this guy as a terrorist except the united states government. which has indicted him under ordinary murder statute that carries the death penalty. but often we see a second indictment following the first indictment, if more information comes forward. once he get's a lawyer and he says to his lawyer, by the way, i lied to the authorities. i really know a lot more, the lawyer might say, that's your best ammunition. why don't we now tell the federal government we really have more information and try to
whether it would be a proper under the law, is an open question. they couldn't use any of the material that they illicited from him, but maybe they don't need it. they may also reindict him. >> well, they wouldn't use the inform in the criminal case against him but could use it to get to a wider group. >> oh no question. can you use it against anybody else. you only can't use it against this defendant. and they may be able to obtain such information. and if so, they might reindict...
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>> i think that's just a misunderstanding of the law. if you look back over the history over the last 20 years particularly, our justice system in the united states has worked very well in similar cases. look what happened in oklahoma city with timothy mcveigh who was not only convicted but suffered the death penalty. look what happened with eric rudolph with olympiapac park. the fbi can put this case together and be prosecuted in the courts of the united states and let justice follow that way. i don't think this is any way should be relegated -- not relegated, but elevated to something on enemy combatant status. this is a crime against the people of the united states. it can be handled that way. i have every confidence in the justice department and state authorities in massachusetts to do that. >> douglas jones, thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> as boston tries to return to normal, what role will sports play? the sox and bruins are about to play here today. fans are honoring the city in a very special way. back
>> i think that's just a misunderstanding of the law. if you look back over the history over the last 20 years particularly, our justice system in the united states has worked very well in similar cases. look what happened in oklahoma city with timothy mcveigh who was not only convicted but suffered the death penalty. look what happened with eric rudolph with olympiapac park. the fbi can put this case together and be prosecuted in the courts of the united states and let justice follow...
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a law enforcement source tells cnn there are a number of active leads but no identified suspects. a man with a black backpack and black sweatshirt reportedly tried to get into a restricted area. this is the instant that thousands of people went running for the finishing line to >> do we have any idea who may have caused the atrocity? >> this is a very difficult scenario to pick up on. >> we're going to talk to jason instead. i believe 31 patients are being treated there. what are you expecting to have happen in the next few hours there? >> it is going to be a lot of hard work for the surgeons here. there is just no other way to say it. one came out and said in the very beginning, piers, the ambulances were coming in drones. and basically saying no matter, they drill for things like this but nothing could have prepared them for what they are dealing with inside here. most of the injuries to the lower extremities. there are two people in critical condition fighting for their lives at this very moment. >> the worst of the injuries have been injury to the legs. a lot of injury to the
a law enforcement source tells cnn there are a number of active leads but no identified suspects. a man with a black backpack and black sweatshirt reportedly tried to get into a restricted area. this is the instant that thousands of people went running for the finishing line to >> do we have any idea who may have caused the atrocity? >> this is a very difficult scenario to pick up on. >> we're going to talk to jason instead. i believe 31 patients are being treated there. what...
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air law degreerned his from brooklyn law school and served in the u.s. air force. who will be asking the questions of dzhokhar tsarnaev? most likely it will be members of this high-value interrogation group that works for the obama administration. about reported in 2010 how it is believed that the organization is now led by the fbi, but it also has participation from the defense department, the central intelligence agency. there are several agencies involved with this group of experts about balancing these interests out, making sure that if there is important information for national security, that that information can be brought through the course of a lawful investigation, and also making -- theat the individuals suspect is able to be brought to justice. host: let me put another voice on the table, dick cheney. one year ago, the former vice president talked about techniques used to get information, individuals that he said were high-value targets to protect the homeland. here's a a portion of what he had to say. some of the>> strongest controversy surrounding som
air law degreerned his from brooklyn law school and served in the u.s. air force. who will be asking the questions of dzhokhar tsarnaev? most likely it will be members of this high-value interrogation group that works for the obama administration. about reported in 2010 how it is believed that the organization is now led by the fbi, but it also has participation from the defense department, the central intelligence agency. there are several agencies involved with this group of experts about...
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that is the law right now? >> that would not fly as the law stands right now but i think this case, is a wonderful example of why congress needs to revisit that law. jenna: why? >> because, in my opinion, we simply can not protect the homeland in this day and age where someone this unsophisticated, acting alone or with one other person can cause this much damage. we have to send a clear notice to our enemies abroad, and within that if you take up arms against the united states, remember the victims in this case weren't only innocent victims in boston. this was an attack against the united states to terrorize our population. they need to be know that you will be dealt with swiftly. you will get due process, but that due process will be swift and absolute. jenna: one. variables it seems in this debate whether or not this young man we continue to see his picture time and time again is tied to a bigger group and it seems in the president's designation of being able to hold somebody, you mentioned the parts of wheth
that is the law right now? >> that would not fly as the law stands right now but i think this case, is a wonderful example of why congress needs to revisit that law. jenna: why? >> because, in my opinion, we simply can not protect the homeland in this day and age where someone this unsophisticated, acting alone or with one other person can cause this much damage. we have to send a clear notice to our enemies abroad, and within that if you take up arms against the united states,...
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mike levine, the department of justice telling law enforce -- saying rather law enforcement believes the incident may be related to the boston bombings and an investigation continues. levine reports fbi is now saying that local police may have arrested a man with similar features, similar features as one of the bombing suspects. that could have been suspect number one with the dark cap or suspect number two with the white cap. those were images that were first broadcast across the world at 5:00 local time during the fbi briefing. the fbi knew when tho pictures went out they were high quality. they knew they had to draft a lot of interest from em pooh. interest from people. they braced themselves for the possibility. they were ready for it. it is possible those tips and those individuals, especially suspect number two who the profile of suspect number two was so clear. if this was a friend of yours or a family member you could clearly identify them. the massachusetts state pleasant out a statement saying suspect number two prominent jaw, defined those. that profile picture is so telli
mike levine, the department of justice telling law enforce -- saying rather law enforcement believes the incident may be related to the boston bombings and an investigation continues. levine reports fbi is now saying that local police may have arrested a man with similar features, similar features as one of the bombing suspects. that could have been suspect number one with the dark cap or suspect number two with the white cap. those were images that were first broadcast across the world at 5:00...
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the rule of law exists before the crime, and that the law be followed when you're prosecuting this person as it existed at the time of the crime. there's no provision for the president of the united states to take this guy, as horrendous as we believe he is, as profound the evidence of his guilt, away from the criminal justice system and ship him to guantanamo bay. i'll make senator graham's argument for him. if this guy is really a soldier from a foreign country who put civilian clothing on, who was financed and trained and paid for and sent here by a foreign government that wants to destroy the united states of america, then he can be treated as a soldier of a foreign country, then you can be treated as an enemy combatant. but governor, there's not an iota of evidence to support that. in fact the evidence the fbi has said is to the contrary. mayor menino, governor patrick, the head of the fbi in boston, have all said these guys were not sent by a foreign government. >> mike: i think you make a great point, too, about the just dessert that people get. timothy mcveigh, a sense of justice
the rule of law exists before the crime, and that the law be followed when you're prosecuting this person as it existed at the time of the crime. there's no provision for the president of the united states to take this guy, as horrendous as we believe he is, as profound the evidence of his guilt, away from the criminal justice system and ship him to guantanamo bay. i'll make senator graham's argument for him. if this guy is really a soldier from a foreign country who put civilian clothing on,...
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we couldn't find my mother-in-law. >> is she okay? >> she's okay. she feels really guilty that she put us through this which is a crazy reaction. don't feel guilty. >> did you locate your wife? >> i did. it's crazy to think she was a few blocks down. on a day that normally is nothing but positive and joyous something positive could occur. >> you ran the race. you were on your way back to the finish line area to plemeet up h a friend. >> i was. i continued to walk and picked up my water bottle and i decided to go back toward the finish to find my friend who was a couple of minutes behind me. i got within a block and then i saw an explosion of white smoke and the loudest noise i've ever heard in my life. even though i was almost a block away the concussion from that was just stunning. it's disorienting. >> did you know it was a bomb or maybe something accidentally? >> no. it was louder than a cannon or anything. after the second blast it was pretty clear. >> did anything seem suspicious. >> no. >> they weren't even letting a pregnant person through. i
we couldn't find my mother-in-law. >> is she okay? >> she's okay. she feels really guilty that she put us through this which is a crazy reaction. don't feel guilty. >> did you locate your wife? >> i did. it's crazy to think she was a few blocks down. on a day that normally is nothing but positive and joyous something positive could occur. >> you ran the race. you were on your way back to the finish line area to plemeet up h a friend. >> i was. i continued to...
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and i think it's fair to say the law isn't completely clear on this. let's us be clear on what we're talking about here. we're talking about the miranda warning. you have a right to remain silent. anything you say can be used against you. you have the right to a lawyer, all that stuff. what the united states government has decided to do is invoke an exception to that rule. which says that when there is a danger to public safety and you need to get answers quickly, you can get the answers without the miranda rights and still use that information in court. so when does the clock tick on that period of the public safety exception? the moment you make an arrest, the moment you begin an interrogation, what? i mean, i think the justice department will take the position that it begins the moment they begin talking to him. but i suppose his lawyers can certainly say that the time had elapsed so much since his arrest that it's hard to assert that exception. my guess is that there's no clear rule here in the federal government. this is kind of a legal rule that'
and i think it's fair to say the law isn't completely clear on this. let's us be clear on what we're talking about here. we're talking about the miranda warning. you have a right to remain silent. anything you say can be used against you. you have the right to a lawyer, all that stuff. what the united states government has decided to do is invoke an exception to that rule. which says that when there is a danger to public safety and you need to get answers quickly, you can get the answers...
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intelligence law enforcement working on it very hard. and was it the older brother -- i mean, we already saw on one of his websites earlier today, we actually used some of the language that bin laden used in 1996 where he called for war against the united states. so was it the brother, the older brother that brought the younger brother. i think we'll be hearing a lot from behaviorists from the upcoming days about what kind of impact, was there hero syndrome and how much was the younger brother really bought into this whole thing. >> yeah, there's been a lot of discussion today, robert, about radicalization within families and how that actually is a growing trend, at least among some ethnic groups is. that true? >> well, listen. you know, bin laden is dead. and the al qaeda under bin laden is not the same. that bin ladenism, that al qaedaism, because of the lack of a counternarrative in a lot of places like we're seeing in north africa and other places, it still has a very potent and toxic effect. thankfully, in the united states, we've h
intelligence law enforcement working on it very hard. and was it the older brother -- i mean, we already saw on one of his websites earlier today, we actually used some of the language that bin laden used in 1996 where he called for war against the united states. so was it the brother, the older brother that brought the younger brother. i think we'll be hearing a lot from behaviorists from the upcoming days about what kind of impact, was there hero syndrome and how much was the younger brother...
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so if the law does allow you to not ask those miranda rights, you can proceed. but you cannot make up the rules as you go. if you do not follow the law, if you do deviate from it, the things you do could cost the case ultimately. any confession you could get could be thrown out or dismissed or anything like that. you want to make sure that you do follow the law even though you may feel otherwise, we have to be careful. >> all right. an experienced interrogator, thank you so much for joining us. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> we have some good news for all that flooding out west. we'll tell you what it is, your weather forecast coming up. hey! did you know that honey nut cheerios has oats that can help lower cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! wow. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? be happy. be healthy. how old is the oldest person you've known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot of us have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but e
so if the law does allow you to not ask those miranda rights, you can proceed. but you cannot make up the rules as you go. if you do not follow the law, if you do deviate from it, the things you do could cost the case ultimately. any confession you could get could be thrown out or dismissed or anything like that. you want to make sure that you do follow the law even though you may feel otherwise, we have to be careful. >> all right. an experienced interrogator, thank you so much for...
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finding out -- that law enforcement is poring over as we speak. what officials are trying to get from the public, that's next. for those nights when it's more than a bad dream, be ready. for the times you need to double-check the temperature on the thermometer, be ready. for high fever, nothing works faster or lasts longer. be ready with children's motrin. then you'll love lactose-free lactaid® it's 100% real milk that's easy to digest so you can fully enjoy the dairy you love. lactaid®. for 25 years, easy to digest. easy to love. >>> one of the first things the investigators said to the public, we need your help. anyone who has information along the posten marathon route and elsewhere, send us whatever information you have. no piece of information or detail is too small. >> we would like to review any kind of media that you have out there. that might give us additional leads. >> the person who did this, as for anyone who may have heard someone speak about the marathon or the date of april 15th in any way that indicated that he or she may target
finding out -- that law enforcement is poring over as we speak. what officials are trying to get from the public, that's next. for those nights when it's more than a bad dream, be ready. for the times you need to double-check the temperature on the thermometer, be ready. for high fever, nothing works faster or lasts longer. be ready with children's motrin. then you'll love lactose-free lactaid® it's 100% real milk that's easy to digest so you can fully enjoy the dairy you love. lactaid®. for...
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ie any kind of interaction with law enforcement. this source emphasized there are just not resources to checkup on legitimate student visa holders are tending school in this country. two sources told us the name and date of birth was sirk rated for -- circulated to capitol hill. it may wash out along with others. >> my guess is that there may be a number of search warrants being exsuited -- executed tonight. we know of an apartment in massachusetts being searched. do we know whose that is? whether it's related to this person of interest? >> we're working to confirm reports coming out of boston police and federal agents are searching a complex in refer. reports indicate there are canine units as well as bomb squad fbi and homeland security investigations this is a part of homeland security that would also include immigration and customs enforcement. not clear whether it's related to the boston explosion. fbi special agent in charge emphasized this is an active investigation and fluid. and less than 12 hours from now we're going tofr
ie any kind of interaction with law enforcement. this source emphasized there are just not resources to checkup on legitimate student visa holders are tending school in this country. two sources told us the name and date of birth was sirk rated for -- circulated to capitol hill. it may wash out along with others. >> my guess is that there may be a number of search warrants being exsuited -- executed tonight. we know of an apartment in massachusetts being searched. do we know whose that...
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you'll remember that we have been reporting that law enforcement authorities had issued a bulletin to other investigators to be on the lookout for someone who might have been carrying a black backpack in the area of the explosions right before they occurred. so this might go hand in hand with that. we also heard governor deval patrick of massachusetts announce not long ago that there were two bombs and two bombs only. he went on to say that another device that had been found or a suspicious package, rather, that had been found, was blown up as a precautionary measure. so he said they're working with two bombs. we don't have information at this time any or details about the second bomb that was found, michael. >> can didcandy, this is suzann. did the law enforcement official tell you significance of the information, if it -- the pressure cooker if it might have created more shrapnel or if this was a crude device and how this would have impacted the injuries, kinds of injuries we saw in the blast? >> reporter: because it was made of metal, you're right that could have hidden shrapnel pl
you'll remember that we have been reporting that law enforcement authorities had issued a bulletin to other investigators to be on the lookout for someone who might have been carrying a black backpack in the area of the explosions right before they occurred. so this might go hand in hand with that. we also heard governor deval patrick of massachusetts announce not long ago that there were two bombs and two bombs only. he went on to say that another device that had been found or a suspicious...
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the law would be carried out. that causes me a great deal of concern. october in 2011, i share with you my concerns. the department has been more focused on meeting with special immigration groups then supporting them and helping them accomplish with the law requires in this country. have you met with those officers and you said no. have you met with the officers of the ice association? >> have a spoken to border patrol officers in the field, yes. >> i think you should have met with them in the field. morale of ice employees had dropped. were you aware that the morale at ice had dropped? >> that is a real concern of mine. >> are you aware in lawsuit has been filed? a vote of no-confidence in the ice director was held. nothing has been done to deal with the failed leadership at that agency. >> ice has increased its enforcement efforts and has installed real priorities for the first time. the director gets criticized for departing too many people as opposed to not enough people. that is a difficult job to have. ice
the law would be carried out. that causes me a great deal of concern. october in 2011, i share with you my concerns. the department has been more focused on meeting with special immigration groups then supporting them and helping them accomplish with the law requires in this country. have you met with those officers and you said no. have you met with the officers of the ice association? >> have a spoken to border patrol officers in the field, yes. >> i think you should have met with...
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law enforcement has an extremely difficult challenge but they are up to it. >> we are showing video of officers going house to house in watertown. can you tell us what's happening as we go into the home, what they're doing and how they're questioning people. >> oh, sure. experience leads them to fully verbalize what they're doing, to assess the people that they're talking to. they're trying to read body signs and body language, i guess it could be that the homeowner doesn't know that the person is in their house or basement or shed. so they have about 15, 20, 30 things to think about while they're doing this. it's something that they're used to. >> difficult choices, i would think, given the fact that if indeed you have a homeowner that doesn't know they have a fugitive in their house, i cannot imagine the pressure that these officers and these military people are under when they have to make that choice. and what if this guy has explosives strapped to him. what do they do? how do they make those decisions? >> those choices are ones that they have to consider. the bad guy doesn't have
law enforcement has an extremely difficult challenge but they are up to it. >> we are showing video of officers going house to house in watertown. can you tell us what's happening as we go into the home, what they're doing and how they're questioning people. >> oh, sure. experience leads them to fully verbalize what they're doing, to assess the people that they're talking to. they're trying to read body signs and body language, i guess it could be that the homeowner doesn't know...
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>> we've asked through law enforcement for photographs and video tape. everybody has a smart phone and you can imagine thousands and thousands of images. every single one of those is combed. as the forensic investigators piece together what type of device and what type of container it was held until that helps folks reviewing the photos and videos to understand what exactly we should be looking for. >> rose: i want to thank you. i know it's a busy day and i don't want to take longer than i asked for and your people so graciously promised me on a busy day. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: as you know, people around the world because it was such an international event have been deeply saddened by this and i think their hopes and their prayers and their encouragement to the people of the commonwealth of massachusetts is strong and deep as you know. thank you for joining us. >> i'm grateful for that, charlie. i have received messages from friends and people i've never met from all over the country and all over the world expressing support for us here in bosto
>> we've asked through law enforcement for photographs and video tape. everybody has a smart phone and you can imagine thousands and thousands of images. every single one of those is combed. as the forensic investigators piece together what type of device and what type of container it was held until that helps folks reviewing the photos and videos to understand what exactly we should be looking for. >> rose: i want to thank you. i know it's a busy day and i don't want to take longer...
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the fbi, law enforcement, has to make this case out piece by piece. have to lock out claims. has to anticipate, perhaps they would try to use a mental health defense in the trial. you're getting so far along in this case you're thinking about the death penalty phase. at some point probably sooner rather than later you're going to end up looking at their childhoods, where they came from. it's a sweeping, really unparalleled investigation other than the 9/11 investigation. there's a blank check. it's a full-court press. it's a criminal investigation. but also obviously you need to ascertain that there's nobody else afoot with these kind of designs associated with these folks. >> and investigators would be looking at cell phone records, credit cards, photographs, all of that? >> there's essentially an unlimited supply of information they can get. travel records and the like. there will be an autopsy of these people that's really unparalleled. if they didn't pay a light bill on time, that will come up. they'll absolutely thoroughly go through this and rightfully so. >> now, micha
the fbi, law enforcement, has to make this case out piece by piece. have to lock out claims. has to anticipate, perhaps they would try to use a mental health defense in the trial. you're getting so far along in this case you're thinking about the death penalty phase. at some point probably sooner rather than later you're going to end up looking at their childhoods, where they came from. it's a sweeping, really unparalleled investigation other than the 9/11 investigation. there's a blank check....
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he alluded thousands of law enforcement auchlsofficer s for and weeks. we hope we're going to find this guy. but it's very likely that either he found a way to get out or he's found some place that the police just haven't been able to find yet. and so it's going to take a very methodical and very tension-filled search that's going on right now. >> so, michael, is there not a critical time frame in which, you know, for the first x number of hours it is more likely that you'll apprehend somebody and as time goes on it is less likely? >> it really depends on the geography you're looking for. obviously woods versus an urban setting versus a suburban setting. a lot of nooks and crannies in houses. perhaps concealment opportunities. and it just takes a long time. but here's -- here's the point we should watch. at a eacertain point in time, f the commander at the scene, when do you say, all right, let's expand the search, and when do you talk the assets and move them some place else? that's a very important decision and tough decision to make. >> bill? >> and t
he alluded thousands of law enforcement auchlsofficer s for and weeks. we hope we're going to find this guy. but it's very likely that either he found a way to get out or he's found some place that the police just haven't been able to find yet. and so it's going to take a very methodical and very tension-filled search that's going on right now. >> so, michael, is there not a critical time frame in which, you know, for the first x number of hours it is more likely that you'll apprehend...